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Deco's avatar

I don't like anti-science coming from any side. But it looks like John is straining to characterize the right as the benchmark of anti-science only to point out that the left is "just as bad." I see the right's anti-science in my life time involving religious beliefs trumping science, not anything else the right has recently argued in great numbers.

I won't get into arguments about the validity of the 2020 election results, other than remark that the woeful lack of investigation left too many questions unanswered. But long before the "Biden stole the election" [diffuse] from the right was the "Putin handed the election to Trump" multifaceted hoax, in which far more of the left cacophonously participated, spawning a massive "resist" movement to denounce as illegitimate a duly elected president, based on no evidence, despite interminable investigations. Yet the left still believes Trump was a Russian plant. Why hold the distrust of the 2020 election as some archetypal anti-science smirch on the right when the left's 4 year full-frontal all hands dismissal and challenge of the 2016 election offered much more ample, prolonged and juicy anti-science fodder?

As for climate change, foreclosing discussion because the science is "settled" is itself anti-science.

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Stephen Harrod Buhner's avatar

A new one for me is being told that the mindset of whites is epistemic violence in and of itself. Thus, simply the way that whites think, whether or not they ever say or do anything, is a form of violence and thus causes harm to the BIPOC community. And so, any articulations that white people might make, since it is generated from a mindset rooted in epistemic violence, is in and of itself, a form of physical violence. Thus the white mindset, wherever it appears, has to be resisted by any means possible. This is far too similar to accusations made against the Jews in Germany in 1933 and by Stalin and Mao against certain populations under their regimes. Frankly, it is crazy. I am increasingly concerned about my liberal tribe's lack of concern for the damage this does to social bonds in the U.S. It does nothing but turn people against each other.

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