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People should check out Sam Harris’ latest podcast. He interviews Rener Gracie (of the Gracie Brazilian Jiu Jitsu dynasty) about police training, and their appalling ineptitude when going “hands on” with resisting suspects. The problem starts way before race, or guns, or the media. The truth is that if the police (or the gun fans who’ve responded here) had even minimal training on how to safely restrain people, they wouldn’t need to resort to lethal force at all in 99% of cases.

In California (where I live), police must receive 664 hours of training TOTAL to receive a badge. To be a barber? 1500 hours. After getting their badge, the average police officer receives 4 hours of training on arresting people every 2 years. That’s everything: legal issues, weapons, de-escalation...everything. That means about 1 half-hour of training on grappling every 2 years. Mr. Gracie advocates 1 hour of BJJ training every week as a minimum to achieve basic competence. This basic level of training would allow officers to avoid the “Amygdala blackout” that occurs when your life if threatened. Police that have received the basic BJJ training are confident, and remain calm. They don’t freak out and pull their gun, because they are confident that they can handle the suspect safely.

Anyway, I can’t recap the whole conversation here, but if you want to comment intelligently on this issue, you should check it out. It’s free.

Once you understand that cops are just regular people who have simply not been adequately trained to do their jobs, the whole tenor of this debate should change (unless you’re just using your favorite hammer, and looking for nails to whack).

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The next problem that relates to this shooting is more complex. It is becoming more difficult to recruit quality candidates for law enforcement positions. Police are being pilloried and derided for simply doing their jobs. Qualified immunity, which protects them from the piles of unfounded, ridiculous, malicious civil lawsuits is being denied to police officers. Without the protection of qualified immunity every person who gets drunk, drives, gets stopped, fights with the cops and is taken down and handcuffed and every abusive jerk who beats his wife and then fights the police when they come to arrest him, can file a lawsuit naming every officer who was in the vicinity and each officer would have to fund his own defense. While the complainant can be represented by attorneys who work on contingency, pulling the handle on the civil litigation slot machine. Officers are being told to stand down and stand by while rioters burn, loot, trash and destroy homes and businesses, then the officers a blamed for the damage and injury that results. The upshot is that twenty years ago there were between 1500 and 2000 applicants for every police officer trainee position in cities over 200,000. That meant that departments could make their selection from officers who scored A on the Psychological Evaluation and never even look at the Bs. Now, many departments are having to pick from 15 or 20 applicants and are regularly hiring those with Cs and Ds - which means they have poor psychological profiles for a job that allows power over others. Or they are so timid that they will be frightened out of their minds on every traffic stop or dark alley they enter (e.g. Muhammed Noor) making them a ticking bomb waiting to blow up at the first thing that startles them. Departments that formerly hired only applicants with a AA degree are now regularly hiring applicants with GEDs, some with criminal histories. If we want the best and brightest to apply for these jobs (and I think we do) we need to stop demonizing police. We need to provide meaningful training in all aspects of POLICING, not social justice theory. We need to be willing to pay police the kind of professional wages that were common in the 90s and early oughts. What we are doing now will obviously increase the crappy outcomes that we have been seeing in the past few years. It needs to stop.

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